Nichelle Stephens Talks to Rachel Kramer Bussel
Editor of Naughty Spanking Stories From A-Z |
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Photo by Paul Sarkis |
Nichelle: How did you get started writing erotica?
Rachel: I got started writing erotica largely by
accident. I was going to NYU Law School and started
to do more sexual writing. One of the first sexy
pieces I wrote was about my first vibrator and then
I started reading more erotica and decided to try
writing some. My first big story was called "Monica
and Me" and was a fantasy about Monica Lewinsky
that was published in the anthologies Starf*cker
and Best Lesbian Erotica 2001. That's
one that a lot of people remember because it looked
at Monica in a slightly new way, and I'm really
proud of it, though I might have written it differently
today. It's actually going to be reprinted this
summer in Best of the Best Lesbian Erotica 2.
From there, I just started writing more and more
stories and found that I had a propensity for it,
though I am always learning more.
Nichelle: You are the busiest
sex writer in the city with your editing position
at Penthouse Variations, your column in Village
Voice, doing book reviews for Bust, doing interviews
on Gothamist and editing Naughty Spanking Stories
from A to Z and other anthologies. How do you manage?
Diet Coke?
Rachel: I honestly do not know the answer to this
question. If I stop and think too much about how
I do everything that I do, I start to go crazy.
Diet coke does help me in some ways, but it's more
that when I have nothing to do, I get bored and
go poking around for some new book to review or
something else exciting to work on, and by doing
writing in all these different areas – erotica,
book reviews, interviews, essays, my Voice column,
etc., I get to satisfy (or come close to satisfying)
all the various areas of my curiosity.
Nichelle:What's your inspiration for the erotica you write?
Rachel: At the beginning, most of it was inspired
by my real life. That was a time when I was having
lots of crazy, wild sexual adventures, which I still
do on occasion, but it gave me lots of great material,
even when I wasn't necessarily seeking it out. I
found myself in some pretty outlandish situations,
like getting hit on by a woman in a Tel Aviv nightclub,
which I turned into A Very Special Israeli Souvenir,
for the anthology Hot & Bothered 3.
I wrote one called The Real Reason I Have Long
Hair, because I really do get off on having
my hair pulled, even though that one's not to-the-letter
true, and Doing the Dishes is fiction,
but inspired by my very real affinity for washing
dishes. The Monica Lewinsky story stemmed from me
thinking she's hot and extending that into a fantasy,
and in some ways I never considered these stories
as truly "fiction" because they were either
things that happened to me or that I wanted to happen.
It wasn't like I was creating characters out of
thin air, and for a long time I thought my stories
were "lesser" because of that, but now
I realize that instead of trying to force my writing
to go in ways it doesn't naturally want to go, I
just have to listen to where my mind wants to take
me.
Now it's become more of a challenge to write original,
creative stories, that may or may not stem from
my life, but that keep the genre interesting for
me. I've made some forays into gay male porn, and
continue to write about my own life, but often in
more nuanced ways, like I might take part of something
that happened to me, and fictionalize the context,
or take someone I think is hot and write a story
about them, even though nothing even happened between
us, as I did in X2 in Naughty Spanking
Stories. I can really get inspiration from
anywhere, but for the bulk of my stories, which
are largely autobiographical, writing down what
happened and what I felt is a way to process and
understand my own emotions around sex, which are
often more complex than I'd expected. Lately, I've
been looking at ways sex gets complicated by those
emotions, and writing stories that are about things
like longing and breakups and power and fetishes,
but that hopefully have more than eroticism to them,
and I want to continue to go in that direction.
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Nichelle: How did you become
a spanking expert?
Rachel: I wouldn't really say I'm a spanking "expert."
In fact, I shy away from the expert label because
I really feel like I'm just a regular person who's
taken her interest in a topic, in this case, spanking,
and put it out there in the world. I really do love
both spanking other people and getting spanked,
but it's not like that's the only thing I'm into.
Luckily, writing so much about it hasn't quelled
my desire to actually do it! While I might have
done it and written about it more than the average
person, spanking is something that anyone truly
interested in it can try, and as long as you and
your partner communicate about what you want and
you go slowly at first, you can have a wonderful
time. I think spanking's a great activity for those
new to kink, because it can be relatively light,
or harsh, but it can also be very emotionally intense,
something you don't quite realize until you've bent
over for someone or had someone's bare butt staring
you in the face.
Nichelle:How does blogging affect your writing?
Rachel: Well, it affects it in a slightly negative
way in that I use blogging a lot of the time as
a way to procrastinate about doing something else.
But in the overall sense, blogging has been great
for my writing because it gives me a place to publicize
my published work, readings and events, and is also
just somewhere to put all the writing that didn't
make it into some other format. I sometimes get
really stressed out and consider closing my blog,
but then I come to my senses right away because
blogging, in the little over a year I've been doing
it, has really saved my life and allowed me to connect
with and meet some amazing people, and is just a
way for me to let off some steam. I rarely go back
and reread old posts because it's such an "in
the moment" thing for me. Blogging has also
gotten me booked on a few reading series and is
a way to have a presence on the Internet that I
feel is very "me." I rarely censor myself
on my blog and feel like it gives people a little
behind-the-scenes of who I am and what I'm about.
So in one sense, blogging helps me procrastinate,
but I also like to think it jogs my mind for when
I go sit down to do my real writing.
Nichelle: Cupcakes, contests
or comedy, what do you love more?
Rachel: Geez…this is like making me choose
between my children or something. I love all of
these. Cupcakes are a more recent obsession, which
has rapidly escalated, hence our cupcake blog. I
really don't eat them all that often, but I love
looking at photos of them and just baked some myself
for the first time, which was a whole other kind
of endeavor. Contests are just such a part of my
life, I've been entering them since I was a teenager
and won a TV set and a hotel stay in New York and
tickets to Saturday Night Live. I will probably
always enter contests, even if I were to win the
lottery.
Comedy I've gotten into mostly in the last year,
and as I always say when people ask me why I go
to so many comedy shows, it's because so often I
feel like my life sucks and to be able to go out
and laugh and just have fun, where there's no social
or professional pressure, is wonderful. I have no
comedic aspirations so can enjoy shows like Comedy
Pro Shop and Giant Tuesday Night and Welcome to
Our Week and The $1 Room unabashedly. I was totally
honored when Matt Goldich told me recently that
I'm one of a handful of people who regularly go
out and support the alternative comedy scene. There
are lots of comedy fans out there, and it's nice
to feel part of that community even though I'm "just
a fan." I also loved that another comedian
I ran into at Katie McCabe's weekly show Jab at
Punch recognized me by my blog and she had asked
some people who I was and they told her I'm someone
who goes to lots of comedy shows. Or, as I told
my friend and super funny girl Giulia Rozzi at a
party recently, "Yay! The comedians are here."
Comedy has sort of seeped into my life, and vice
versa, I think.
Nichelle:Who are some of
your favorite musicians?
Rachel: I have tons of favorites, so I'll just give
you a brief snapshot. My biggest musical idol and
inspiration is Mary Lou Lord, a Boston-based singer/songwriter/busker
and all-around awesome woman. I've been obsessed
with her ever since I heard her cover of Shawn Colvin's
"Polaroids" on this benefit CD
Safe & Sound way back in 1996. I had
the music on low and heard this soft, sweet voice
and turned it up and then played that song over
and over, picked up her other EPs, started a webpage
and mailing list about her (I still run the mailing
list at some.org, but the webpage has fallen by
the wayside), and then traveled all over the country
seeing her play. Mary Lou is not just a fabulous
musician and interpreter of other people's songs,
she's got such a big heart and is always encouraging
of other musicians and is just someone who loves
songs on a very pure, basic, heartfelt level. You
can hear it in the way she covers people like the
late Elliott Smith, or Billy Bragg, Bob Dylan, Lucinda
Williams, Bruce Springsteen or Richard Thompson.
I highly recommend her Live City Sounds CD.
I'm also super into Ida, Sleater-Kinney and The
Reputation, all of whom I've seen multiple times
and adore to no end. I've also interviewed all these
people, because that's what I usually do when I
like a performer or artist – my interview
with some members of Ida is coming up soon on Gothamist.
Their new album Heart Like a River is,
hands down, one of the most gorgeous records I've
ever heard in my life and I just can't stop listening
to it. Seriously, they're touring now and I urge
you to go see them, or at least go listen to one
of the tracks on Polyvinylrecords.com because their
work is simply stunning. I just saw Sleater-Kinney
put on an amazing, fiery show at Mercury Lounge,
and I hope they truly take over the world with The
Woods. And The Reputation…they just rock
so hard, and also have a really fabulous, tight-knit
fan community, which is how I found my last roommate,
and their shows are always so fun and vibrant, whether
they're packed or not so packed, like a recent Rothko
show where there were less than twenty people in
the crowd and some guys were moshing. Elizabeth
Elmore (lead singer of The Reputation, lawyer and
fellow nerd) is my total idol/heroine and one of
the most brilliant songwriters I know. I'll gladly
listen to her spin words any time. Come out and
see them April 20th at Mercury Lounge!
Nichelle: You've been hosting
a creative ladies brunch where women get together
and discuss their projects. What was the inspiration
for that?
Rachel: At first, it was that I had met all these
cool women writers, and was trying to make individual
plans with them for brunch, but realized there just
wasn't enough time to see everyone. Then I realized
that a lot of these women would probably have interesting/helpful
knowledge to impart to the other ones and it would
be fun for all of us to meet and mingle. I love
to bring people together, whether in the romantic
matchmaking sense, or, more commonly, to bring together
artistic people who can support and nurture each
other. It makes me really happy when I can connect,
say, a writer with an editor looking for freelancers,
or a comedian with someone looking for guests for
their show, and that's how the brunches started.
They're a lot of fun, as long as the trains are
running properly, and also a great way to kickstart
my own creativity. I always say that New York is
such a wonderful place to be a writer or artist
of any kind, because I am continually inspired by
all the people doing awesome things who I encounter
every day. It doesn't necessarily matter if they're
a writer like me; just being around people who are
excited by and passionate about their work inspires
me. It's also a good way to tame one's jealousy
over other people's success, which is never going
to get you anywhere. I find that visualization and
networking—not in the smarmy, sleazy way,
but in the genuine connecting and bonding over mutual
talent kind of way—go a lot farther than simply
lusting after success from afar.
Nichelle: What is
your idea of the perfect vacation/weekend getaway?
Rachel: Part of me wants to say a beach, with no
phone and no internet, but as you know, that's not
really true. I get antsy when I feel like I'm not
connected to the rest of the world. I like cities,
and had a great time going to Chicago last year
for the Book Expo and running all over town and
getting a slight feel for the place. This year,
I'm hoping to head out west to Portland, Oregon,
and possibly to Asia. For me, it matters less where
I go than that I don't have to be running around,
making appointments and plans nonstop, and that
I have fun people to hang out with wherever I am.
I like to have free time to wander around and go
at my own pace, sleep in, eat well and just have
fun. Having a fun tour guide/traveling companion
is also always a good thing because I am a terrible
vacation planner and am invariably barely making
my plane and forgetting things, but what I lack
in organizational vacation skills, I make up for
in enthusiasm.
On The Web:
www.rachelkramerbussel.com | http://lustylady.blogspot.com
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