An
Interview with the Playwright of Deathbed
Mark Schultz
January 31, 2008
Written by
Marguerite Daniels
Opposite Photo:
Clifton Guterman and Brandon Miller
in Mark Shultz's Deathbed
Photo Credit: Aaron Epstein
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Read
Marguerite Daniels' review of Deathbed
Question
about coming up with the idea of Deathbed:
Mark Schultz:
I had just finished something that had a lot of
speeches in it, a play called the Gingerbread
House, which is very, very, very speech heavy.
And at the same time I had read and reread some
Carol Churchill and, you know, Carol Churchill is
one of the best. I think she’s just amazing.
She wrote Far Away which is about forty-five
miinutes, and A Number which is probably
a little longer, and This is a Chair. They
are all gorgeous, but they are all very short. And
they are short not in the sense that you feel short
changed, but they’re short in the sense of
that she is so economical with her use of language,
in her development of plot, and of story and situations,
and structure. That it’s just amazing. They’re
diamonds. They just shine so much. And I wanted
to see if I could do something similar; if I could
set myself a goal of not writing heavy speeches.
If I could set myself a goal of trying to be as
economical as possible, and also as quick as possible.
I didn’t want to second guess. Because once
I sit and write dialogue and I think about what
they are saying and I expand and expand and expand.
And some of them are speaking in monologues to each
other or in very hefty speeches. I wanted to say
what I wanted them to say as characters with the
least amount of intrusion from me until it came
to the point where I had to go back and craft it.
At first thought, that was a lovely idea, but I
think ultimately any thought is a lovely idea. Or
rather not any thought, but whatever works is the
best idea.
Emily Donahoe, Ross
Bickell, and Clifton Guterman in Mark Shultz's Deathbed
Photo Credit: Aaron Epstein
At the time there seemed to be a lot of plays about
middle class, white people with a lot of money,
who suffered with things that in a broader scheme
of things did not seem to be particularly noteworthy.
They’re suffering but in a larger scheme of
things it’s not Darfur, it’s not Bosnia.
It’s not like global hunger, but it’s
treated like it’s the end of the world. But
really there is a part of me that thinks it’s
the end of the world because we don’t actually
think about death. We don’t like thinking
about death. We don’t like thinking we are
mortal and we’re going to die. So it does
feel like the end of the world. And to an extent
it is the end of our small subjective world, but
there is a much larger world to which we belong
that in ways demands that we look beyond our subject
world, and engage in something larger. A lot of
those plays seem to be characterized by people with
diseases, and the cancer play has become a big cliché.
And I thought let’s see what would happen
if I tried to engage this cliché a bit.
The first versions of the play were very sarcastic,
and very judgmental and condemnatory, but as I was
writing it, it became clearer and clearer that you
can’t sustain that level of sarcasm and still
be human. You can’t create a work of art based
on sarcasm. Because sarcasm is based on disdain
and disdain on hatred, and I don’t think those
things can go together to create something like
that. An extremity of feeling certainly can. But
ultimately I think that a piece of writing is a
love letter to world that could care less, and that
you have to write the letter. You write the letter
that loves even the world that doesn’t care
whether or not you love it. You have to commit to
the suffering of rejection of the unrequited lover.
And I realized I was writing the wrong thing, and
I started focusing on every character’s subjective
experience of their own suffering and it became,
in a way, an oddly redemptive experience, because
at the end of it I didn’t have the same feelings
about the play as I did at the beginning.
I realized that it’s something that James
Baldwin wrote in Giovanni’s Room,
it’s not a direct quote, but he wrote that
the most cruel thing that you can do to someone
else is to belittle their suffering and I realized
that that was the enterprise in which I was engaged
in the beginning. But by making the play about how
to articulate your own suffering in the face of
someone else’s pain, then it became more human
in the process and I realized what those plays do,
how they work and that they are actually valuable,
to the extent that they are valuable. So I finished
up the play with that in mind, and cancer seemed
like a great metaphor for a lot of other things
that came out in the play.
Love, an all consuming love that one character has
for another that he tries to extract himself from,
but ultimately he can’t do it. Memory, there
is a character that is really burden by his memories
of a horrible past that he had. Death, and cancer,
and mortality, as well as betrayal. And all those
things meet at a crossroads were all these people
are trying somehow to articulate, “I need
something from you! I need something!” and
all they would get back is that “My suffering
is greater!” And a lot of the conversations
in the play go back and forth with that idea until
a couple characters give that up and are willing
to suffer with, to have compassion. They’re
willing to be vulnerable. I think that is the core
of the play, the willingness to suffer. Some characters
give up needing to be comforted, or wanting to be
comforted and they are willing to suffer with rather
than suffer alone.
Mark Schultz
Recent plays include:
Everything Will Be Different or A Brief
History of Helen of Troy (SoHo Rep / True Love
Productions) for which he won the 2005 Oppenheimer
Award and the 2006 Kesselring Prize; Deathbed
(Apparition Productions); Polar Bear (Birmingham
Rep, UK); Gift (Rising Phoenix Rep / NY
International Fringe Festival). Everything Will
Be Different, was produced by the Actors Touring
Company with Theatre Royal Plymouth under the title
A Brief History of Helen of Troy and was
seen at The Drum Theater Royal, Plymouth; Birmingham
Rep, Birmingham; The Traverse, Edinburgh; Soho Theater,
London. Other plays include The Gingerbread
House; Magic Kingdom; Brightness.
Readings and workshops: MCC Theater; The Vineyard;
Rattlestick; MTC; New York Theater Workshop; The
Public; Studio Dante; Woolly Mammoth. He was selected
for a 2006 Royal Court Residency. His work is published
by Oberon, Dramatists Play Service, and Smith &
Kraus and had been featured in Francis Ford Coppola’s
Zoetrope magazine. He is a founding member and artistic
associate of Theater Mitu, a member of Rising Phoenix
Rep, and coordinator of MCC Theater’s Playwrights’
Coalition. He holds an MFA in playwriting from Columbia
University and represented by CAA.
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